Totally authentic, as long as you ignore what many French people say about the base, that is. The majority of French (and other) chefs will gasp a collective “Mon Dieu” and insist on “de bouillon de bœuf”. Beef stock to you and me. What do they know? I know best. I used chicken stock and my reasoning is pretty sound.
Firstly, French onion soup is a peasant dish. Given their oppressed past (sadly, peasants are always oppressed), in pre-revolution times, there really could not have been many of them making beef stock. Cattle were hard enough to come by and I doubt they got slaughtered in enough numbers to make a “French classic” possible.
Secondly, those agrarians all had chickens. Lots of chickens. In fact, today, they have too many chickens. At big international games, they love to sneak them into rugby grounds and release them onto the pitch. The rooster has been an unofficial symbol of France since Roman times. The cow doesn’t get a hoof in.
So, I’m pretty sure that the French peasants made their soup using chicken stock. It stands to reason. So, beef fans, popular history and indisputable logic are on my side. My French friend (one of my few French friends) Stéphane Gerbart does not agree. He is a water supporter and not in favour of the chicken stock.
Side note on chicken stock: If you are one of those people who believe that stock is made by putting a cube in a bowl and adding boiling water, read Stéphane’s post above and follow his method. You are wasting your time here.
Ingredients
- 4 large onions
- 1 litre of real, home made, chicken stock
- A couple of slices of a nice sourdough bread
- A generous handful of grated Gruyere cheese
- Half a tablespoon of flour
- 1 teaspoon of brown sugar
- Salt and pepper to season
- A sprinkle of parsley to get some green into the photo
- A couple of glasses of Lillet to make the onion stirring bearable.
You could also do with a good book. The onion sweating takes an age. First, slice the onions evenly. Some promote very fine slicing and others swear medium. I cut them roughly, in a peasant like fashion. That must be authentic.
Add a little oil to a very large frying pan and add the onions. Sweat them over a low heat for a long time. Here it is in pictures…
After about 15 minutes of this tedium, break out a French aperitif and pour it in (to yourself, not the onions).
Return to the stirring and go easy on the drink. After another 15 minutes, the drink will be nearly gone and the onions will be just beginning to change colour.
At this stage, your face will have changed colour too. What with the drink and slaving over a hot stove. After another 15 minutes or so, the onions will start to colour nicely.
Another 15 minutes or so and the onions will be a nice brown colour.
At this stage, add the flour and stir it until it combines with the onions and cooks a bit. allow another 5 to 10 minutes.
Next, add in some of the stock and stir.
I added just enough to wet the onions and allow the flour to be properly cooked. Add the remaining stock and simmer for 15 minutes.
While the soup is simmering, slice and toast some sourdough bread and grate the cheese.
Taste and season the soup.
Ladle it into warm bowls, place the sourdough on top, sprinkle on the cheese and place under the grill (broiler) until the cheese melts. Sprinkle with a little parsley and serve with more sourdough toast.
The soup has taken an hour and a half to prepare. It’s very much hands on. It’s well worth it. The chicken stock and onions give a big flavour hit. Next time, I should try it with beef stock, even if it’s less traditional. Or, because it’s more popular? Who knows, who cares? I might even try Stéphane’s water based soup. He might know best, given that he is French. Though, I will take a lot of convincing.
Linda Duffin | 31st March 2015
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I took a breather from a rather tedious job to read this and you made me laugh out loud. Thank you for cheering me up. I love French (or Irish) onion soup and I’m with you on the chicken stock.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Thanks Linda,
Glad to be of service.
Best,
C
cookinginsens | 31st March 2015
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Rich.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Very.
Lisa Shaw | 31st March 2015
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I like the new look of your blog. The font is much easier to read. 🙂 Soup sounds good, too. I actually enjoy caramelizing onions for many reasons, so maybe I’ll give this a try!
Also, have you actually posted about making chicken stock? The stuff I have made in the past had no body whatsoever, and I’d like to know how to get it right.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Hi Lisa,
No, I have to post it yet. I promise to do so. My approach makes lovely stock and is extremely healthy too. (I would say that, wouldn’t I?).
Lisa Shaw | 31st March 2015
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I have been reading your blog just long enough to be certain that yes, you would say that. 🙂 Also, false alarm on the new look. When the page refreshed, all was as before.
deirdremagner | 31st March 2015
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Love French Onion Soup!!!
Same on the stock, though. Mine, I’m afraid is nearly water – and I have been reduced at times to using the cube (gasp!) as well. Would love to know your method, although I have some reservations about gelatinous substances…
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Hi Deirdre, I promise to post the stock approach just as soon as I can get my hands on a chicken. The gelatinous substance bit can be fun….
A Cookbook Collection | 31st March 2015
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I’ve been waiting for this post Conor, and it doesn’t disappoint! This looks beautiful. I am one of those sad people who likes nothing better than stirring onions/risotto as they slowly cook. Its a bit of time to myself while it looks like I’m actually busy doing something 🙂
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Hi Donna,
There is something very relaxing about stirring a risotto or these onions, particularly if there is a glass or two of something nice involved.
Amber | 31st March 2015
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I have been wanting to make a batch of French Onion soup with some venison stock I have in the freezer. Not too sure how traditional that is- I don’t think European peasants had hunting rights.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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I think it’s OK Amber. Just call it French Royalist Onion Soup and you will be fine.
sybaritica | 31st March 2015
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I always use homemade stock for onion soup but it is typically a stock of all sorts… mostly chicken, but whatever else is good for the pot. For making slow-cooked onions, though, (whether as a steak topping, sauce ingredient, or what have you) I often add a few tablespoons of beef stock along with sugar…. it adds a nice depth.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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John,
That is an excellent suggestion. If only I had been using beef stock. We are having very typical Irish “four seasons in a day” weather. I have some very good beef stock in the freezer. Perhaps I should go all ‘French’ and try it on beef stock?
Best,
Conor
foodisthebestshitever | 31st March 2015
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I love a good onion soup… Chicken or beef stock works fine for me… And a nice bit of fatty bacon 👍
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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The fatty bacon would have the purists in a spin.
“I like it!”
(Quotation marks for emphasis.)
Mad Dog | 31st March 2015
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I’m sure it’s excellent with chicken stock. I can’t help thinking that horse must have been very popular during the revolution and being a lover of horse steak I bet the soup would be very good 😉
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Boy,oh boy, horse (onion) soup would be wonderful. Politically incorrect to even suggest it.
Mad Dog | 31st March 2015
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Not at all, horse is having a resurgence in popularity with housewives in France due to the great taste and low fat content (like venison) …and of course chips cooked in horse fat are to die for 😉
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/21/horsemeat-scandal-rise-sales-france-butcher
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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I love this blogging stuff MD. I learn so much.
ramzan66 | 31st March 2015
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Reblogged this on ramzan66's Blog.
frugalfeeding | 31st March 2015
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Who cares what the French say anyway, eh? Looks delicious. I was thinking of doing this myself recently, but now I’ll have to hold off for fear of my embarrassment.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Nick, your double bluff designed to protect my embarrassment is very thoughtful. We both know yours would be a coup de gras (that’s French BTW).
Debbie Spivey | 31st March 2015
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Love that you used brown sugar in onions… wow!
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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A little bit really helps with the caramelising Debbie. No more than I use or it gets a bit sweet.
Debbie Spivey | 31st March 2015
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I used honey on some for my pork tenderloin a couple of weeks ago. That made them like candy. I would image the brown sugar gives them that smoky molasses flavor. I understand about too sweet though…yikes!
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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If I use honey with pork, I tend to balance it with a bit of soy sauce. The saltiness does the trick.
Debbie Spivey | 31st March 2015
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Ahh yes! Thanks for the tip, Conor. 🙂
trixfred30 | 31st March 2015
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I feel oppressed sitting here reading this. I am hungry, its 4.58pm and if I see another spreadsheet or powerpoint presentation I will cry. I have not tried cooking with that particular beverage – but, I’m curious, what would it be like as an accompaniment to stirring that other slow-burner (sic) – risotto?
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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The Lillet works well when preparing anything, except PowerPoint presentations.
Yinzerella | 31st March 2015
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Yes, please post the stock how-to. I fail at it.
I can make an onion sweat, however.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Hi Yinz,
I will, I promise. There is a bonus of some delicious Chinese chicken too.
StefanGourmet | 31st March 2015
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Another classic, Conor. Great post. I’m afraid I have to side with Stéphane on what is the most likely authentic every day onion soup, as those peasants certainly didn’t have enough chickens to use them all the time. Yours could be a Sunday version perhaps? I bet though that your version tastes better because you add another layer of flavor.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Typical of you mainland Europeans to stick together – even when presented with my evidence. 😉
tinywhitecottage | 31st March 2015
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Doesn’t take much to convince me to use chicken stock instead of beef with this incredible looking soup. It’s perfect.
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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Too kind as always. We make our own stock most of the time. Either version is lovely, as long as the stock is top notch.
katechiconi | 31st March 2015
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Nothing like a nice wobbly chicken stock. I’m a great fan of that myself…. This soup looks delicious, and probably smells and tastes that way too!
Conor Bofin | 31st March 2015
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You are right on both counts Kate. I now have to post a chicken stock recipe. I hope your travels went well.
katechiconi | 31st March 2015
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I had an outstanding and memorable time, thank you, Conor. I’d make this soup for the Husband except that he keeps coming back for either my chicken and veg or ham & pumpkin for his lunchbox, soup being a healthy, hot and easy lunch for a truck driver.
aranislandgirl | 31st March 2015
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One of my all time favorites. Sadly, I have not had it in such a long time. Have a wonderful Easter Conor.
Conor Bofin | 1st April 2015
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I will do my best to enjoy it. If we get a bit of weather, it will be great.
Tara Sparling | 31st March 2015
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Conor, I followed your instructions right up til the aperitif, but I seem to have missed the point of sugar addition. It’s a bit late now, as the aperitifs were particularly lovely, but I might make another attempt tomorrow.
Conor Bofin | 1st April 2015
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If you start out with one or two of the aperitif, there will be no need to cook a soup at all. Do have another go, brave girl…
Tara Sparling | 1st April 2015
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Sounds like a plan. The drinking one, I mean.
Eha | 1st April 2015
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Beef stock? Chicken stock? Just had to go talk to Mr Google as Eha does not use stock!! Water!!!! Whew, I am not the only one 🙂 !! And ‘around, around the world we go’ seems to give a result of 3 beef to 2 chicken! So ‘thank you’ for the recipe which will be followed to the n-th degree come Easter!! Have a good one Milord . . .
Conor Bofin | 1st April 2015
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Excellent Eha. I plan to do a beef version pretty soon. I have the stock and the weather is not as warm as it might be. Perfect for soups! Enjoy Easter.
anotherfoodieblogger | 1st April 2015
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I thought you were supposed to toss a bit of that Lillet (or whatever wine on hand you have) into those caramelized onions? Nonetheless, I’ve made this with both beef and chicken broth. (Homemade of course.) I just adore reading your wit and fabulous recipes. Thanks once again Conor!
Conor Bofin | 1st April 2015
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Happy to oblige. The temptation to throw the Lillet into myself was overpowering. The onions had to make do with the sugar.
Bam's Kitchen | 1st April 2015
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Brilliant I would have never thought to use chicken broth and carmelizing your onions with a bit of brown sugar is brilliant!!! Sharing if course!!!!
Conor Bofin | 1st April 2015
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Thanks BAM. The bit of sugar just brings them that extra bit along the way. There is no substitute for standing over the low heat and stirring, and stirring, and stirring….
aakritisethi | 1st April 2015
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Great recipe! It looks delicious.
Conor Bofin | 1st April 2015
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Thank you. we enjoyed it, for sure.
Michelle | 2nd April 2015
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Parfait! And, really, who cares what the French say on the subject? 😉
Conor Bofin | 2nd April 2015
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Thanks Michelle. I will care more as my holidays in Bordeaux approach.
therebelkitchen | 2nd April 2015
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Hahaha, hilarious… Your posts always make me laugh 🙂 I think you have fairly sound reasoning there for a chicken stock French onion soup, in fact, I’m going to try it myself next time! Looks fantastic (and your photos are stunning!)
Conor Bofin | 3rd April 2015
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You are, as ever, too kind in your comments. I look forward to your post.
iamrorykelly | 3rd April 2015
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Interesting to add sugar Conor – optional extra or do you find its a requisite?
Conor Bofin | 3rd April 2015
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Optional, for sure. I estimate it takes 10 minutes off the stirring time. I only use a small amount. The thought of sweet soup makes me shudder.
iamrorykelly | 3rd April 2015
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Yeah, I was wondering about it Conor. I like the cathartic aspect of nurturing onions onions to their own natural sweetness.. Great friggin’ soup 🙂
FrugalHausfrau | 4th April 2015
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I have been looking forward to this post! And heartily agree on all points – although I can see that the lack of an apertif in my recipe may have to be mended! 🙂 Your stock looks lovely, by the way.
Very few of the old recipes I have for things like soup and stew call for actual “stock” being added, just water (but not my Mom’s French Onion which calls for making stock out of oxtails, which I don’t use because I can’t imagine all those oxen running around w/o their tails and not being able to swish off the flies. That’s just cruel) but today, many recipes call for canned/boxed stock. I saw a recipe the other day for chicken soup which called for the whole chicken to be cooked in boxed commercial chicken stock. It took me aback. I was like why, why, why…and a vegetable soup that calls for chicken stock. But I digress…
Conor Bofin | 6th April 2015
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Over the past few weeks, we have made pork, beef and chicken stock. Some of it reduced to a thick jelly and frozen in ice cube trays. Commercially produced stock is, as a general rule, salt laden and of little real value in the kitchen.
FrugalHausfrau | 6th April 2015
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It’s bad, here, in the US, too, the commercial stuff. Even worse, in my area at least, the meats and roasts sold in the store are generally deboned, but for a hefty price you can buy a small bag of bones.
oaksmokeandbbqsauce | 6th April 2015
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Looking good man! How have you been?
Conor Bofin | 6th April 2015
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Good indeed. You have been MIA. I enjoyed this one.
oaksmokeandbbqsauce | 6th April 2015
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Yeh man, I moved to London. This city is intense! Not much time for blogging. 😛 I actually had an idea to run by you. Mind if I got your email? Or just pm my blog?
Conor Bofin | 6th April 2015
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It’s my name at gmail.com. It would be good to hear from you.
oaksmokeandbbqsauce | 6th April 2015
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Will do 🙂
oaksmokeandbbqsauce | 12th April 2015
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Hey man, did you get my email?
Conor Bofin | 12th April 2015
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I did. It’s been hectic. Promise to give it due thought. On first reading, an excellent idea.
amanda | 8th April 2015
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Your pictures make me drool. As always. 🙂
marymtf | 21st April 2015
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I’m with you about the stock too. And a glass or two of something to break the tedium. But I had to double check the ingredients and wonder where the brandy was?
Conor Bofin | 21st April 2015
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If there is brandy involved, it ends up in the chef. That’s only right and fair.
soursofgrain | 10th May 2015
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To hell with those French purists!! My kind of soup- thanks for the recipe.
Conor Bofin | 10th May 2015
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At some stage (next winter) I’ll do the purist version. Then we can take it for own.
soursofgrain | 10th May 2015
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Yes I’m sure they’ll surrender it to you. They’re good at that sort of thing.
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Stéphane Gabart | 8th July 2016
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It’s called onion soup! Not Chicken onion soup! Seriously! Ha ha HA! I’m only kidding (or am I?) It looks delicious conor as does everything you cook. Love, sweat (and tears in this case) are the most important ingredients you can put in any dish! all that being said, please do me a favor and take the word “french” out of the title :0)
Conor Bofin | Author | 14th July 2016
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We can debate it in person early next month. Really looking forward to the trip, my friend.